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Name: vvk  •  Title: ISIS is pure Islam  •  Date posted: 09/27/14 22:21
Q: Quran and the Sunna constitute their ideology, doctrine, and conduct.
Obama, Cameron et al say Islamic State are just a bunch of barbarians, not real Muslims. But as they behead and mutilate "infidels" they're only doing what the Koran and the Prophet instructs. 
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Name: QuebecIndieAnna  •  Date: 09/29/14 7:47
A: .

Monday September 29th 2014

I watched the movie Gandhi last week.

After listening to the poor Indigo workers explain their plight,
Gandhi suggested to the Indian Congress that India have a day of pray.
The Muslim politician from the north of India said:
"You mean a strike?"

"I mean a day of prayer," replied Gandhi.

"You mean a day of nation-wide strike," reinforced the Muslim leader.

That night, I read the Bible's account of Jesus' story about the good Samaritan. It occurs to me that upon hearing about the plight of the poor Indigo workers, suffocating under the weight of high rent, what Gandhi did, in calling for his national 'day of prayer' is comparable to what the Good Samaritan did.

There is a difference, though:
- the Good Samaritan carried the inured man to an inn, pays for his care and goes on his way;
- Gandhi, in response to the cry of one poor man, orchestrated a nation-wide strike of the world's 2nd largest country (population wise).

How is it that a single man was able to 'embarrass into submission' the most powerful colonial empire in the history of the planet, and yet today, some would say that killing another human being in a horrible way is divinely decreed?

Gandhi, where ever he is, must be scratching his head.
Or fasting,
Or weeping.

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Salem SOIT avec vous.

Indie
Name: vvk  •  Date: 12/13/14 6:20
A: (CNN) -- Can you take non-Muslim women and children captive? Yes, says ISIS.

Can you have sex with them, even prepubescent girls? Yes, according to the Islamist extremist group.

Can you sell them or give them as gifts to others? The answer is yes, once again.

People in Mosul -- the Iraqi city now under control of the group calling itself the Islamic State -- got these and other messages loud and clear after sunset prayers Friday, when armed men handed out a color-printed pamphlet "Questions and Answers on Taking Captives and Slaves," three residents told CNN.






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"People started gathering in small groups chattering about this (document)," said one of the men, whom CNN didn't name for security reasons. "Most are shocked, but (we) cannot do much about it."

The document was first printed in October or November, then later posted on an ISIS website. It has gotten more publicity recently because of the Middle East Media Research Institute, an independent Washington-based nonprofit whose advisory board includes former National Security Agency Director Michael V. Hayden, onetime CIA Director James Woolsey and ex-U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

The idea that ISIS is kidnapping, selling and raping women and children is hardly surprising. Many such accounts have surfaced since the group began its often brutal run through Syria and Iraq, including chilling stories from members of the Yazidi religious minority. And these are on top of other horrific allegations, such as the killings and mistreatment of innocent civilians simply because they didn't subscribe to ISIS' extreme take on Sharia law.

Yazidi women 'treated like cattle'

And that's the thing about ISIS: Its militants have justified their actions -- like the beheadings of journalists and aid workers -- in God's name.

Even then, it is rare to see its rationale laid out as plainly as "Questions and Answers on Taking Captives and Slaves."

In the Middle East Media Research Institute's English translation of that Q&A, for instance, it is explained that capturing women is permissible if they are "unbelieving" -- i.e. not Muslim (at least up to ISIS' standards).

Much of the pamphlet talks about ISIS' policy on having sexual intercourse with a female slave, something that the group cites the Quran to justify.



Armed men distributed this pamphlet Friday to worshipers in Mosul, outlining what\'s permissible to do with non-Muslim captives.

Armed men distributed this pamphlet Friday to worshipers in Mosul, outlining what's permissible to do with non-Muslim captives.

"If she is a virgin, (her slave owner) can have intercourse with her immediately," ISIS explains, according to the MEMRI translation. "However, if she isn't, her uterus must be purified."

There are other rules as well, like that two men who co-own a captive can't both have sex with her and that a man can't have intercourse with his wife's slave.

As to girls: "It is permissible to have intercourse with the female slave who hasn't reached puberty if she is fit for intercourse," the document reads, according to MEMRI. "However if she is not fit for intercourse, then it is enough to enjoy her without intercourse."

The Q&A is clear that, young and old, the captors have full control of their captives.

As such, the ISIS document claims, "It is permissible to buy, sell or give as a gift female captives and slaves, for they are merely property."




It is permissible to have intercourse with the female slave who hasn't reached puberty if she is fit for intercourse.

ISIS pamphlet on taking captives

The pamphlet sets a few other guidelines, such as that a mother captive can't be separated from her young children and that an impregnated captive cannot be sold. Beating a female slave for discipline is OK, but beating her for pleasure or as a form of torture is not.

There are fewer rules for the captives themselves, though the ISIS pamphlet does identify one thing as "the gravest of sins" -- running away from one's master.

This document marks the most detailed, albeit not first, justification for enslaving nonbelievers, as defined by ISIS. Time and again, the group cites the Quran and its view of Sharia law.

"ISIS is drawing these rulings from ancient Middle Eastern and Mediterranean codes of conduct for war and prisoners," said Abbas Barzegar, professor of religious studies at Georgia State University. "Muslim leaders and lay practitioners the world over continue to condemn ISIS and find its alien interpretation of Islam grotesque and abhorrent. Unfortunately, in the context of failed states and civil wars most sane voices are often the most drowned out."

None of ISIS' rationalizations hold up, Seton Hall University law school Professor Bernard Freamon wrote on CNN.com last month.

"This argument is plainly wrong, hypocritical and astonishingly ahistorical, relying on male fantasies inspired by stories from the days of imperial Islam," said Freamon. "It is also an affront to right-thinking Muslims everywhere and a criminal perversion of Islamic law, particularly its primary source, the glorious Quran." 
Name: QuebecIndieAnna  •  Date: 12/25/14 5:53
A: Abu Madyan was born in Cantillana (Arabic: قطنيانة‎), a small town about 35 km away from Seville, in 1126. He came from an obscure family and his parents were poor. As he grew up, he learned the trade of a weaver as it was a popular practice at the time. As a young adult, Madyan moved to Marrakech where he joined a group of Andalusian soldiers and worked as a guard for the city. His insatiable hunger for knowledge, however, piqued his interest in the Qur'an and the study of religion and mysticism.
Soon after, Abu Madyan traveled to Fes to complete his education. He left for Fes at about the end of the Almoravid empire or at the beginning of the founding of the Almohad power.[2] There, he studied under Abu Ya’azza al-Hazmiri, ‘Ali Hirzihim, and al-Dakkak. It was al-Dakkak that provided him with the khirka, the cloak passed from Master to student in the study of Sufism. During his time studying in Fes, Madyan became entrenched within the readings of Al-Ghazali, who was one of the most prominent, if not the most prominent theologian, philosopher, and mystic of Sunni Islam and was even regarded as one of the renewers of the religion.
Abu Madyan was particularly fascinated with mysticism by Sidi Ali Ibn Harazem. They fasted and prayer together in a continuous fashion as the ideal Sufi, practicing very strict asceticism. Abu Madyan, who'd come from a poor background, didn't have a hard time distancing himself from such pleasures. Because of his strict practices, he reaches the rank of Kutb and Ghuth. After several years in Fez, Abu Madyan went to Mecca where he met the great Muslim saint, Jilani, and completed his mystic studies under him. Later he went to the town of Béjaïa where he practiced very strict asceticism and acquired an honorable reputation for his knowledge. People would come far to both listen to his public lectures and consult him on certain manners. People believed he could even perform miracles.
His beliefs were in opposition to the Almohade doctors of that town. The Almohades were disturbed at his increasing reputation and wanted to get rid of him.
Eventually, Madyan settled in the town of Béjaïa where he established a mosque-school (zawiya). The sheer amount of fame and influence that Abu Madyan evoked raised serious concern from the political powers of the time. The Almohad Caliph Ya’qub al-Mansur summoned Madyan to Marrakech for this reason so he could talk to Madyan himself. Upon his summoning to Marrakech, Abu Madyan was taken ill and died before he reached his destination in 594/1198, near the river of Ysser (يسر).[3] His last sigh was supposedly "Allah al-Hakk." He was buried in al-‘Ubbad near Tlemcen, Algeria. His funeral was widely commemorated by the people of Tlemcen and he has been considered the patron saint and protector of Tlemcen ever since. A mausoleum was built by the order of the Almohade sovereign, Muhammad al-Nasir, too shortly after his death. Many princes and kings of Tlemcen have contributed to this mausoleum since his demise. Many monuments, a good number of them still well preserved, were built in his honor next to his tomb by the Marinid kings, who controlled Tlemcen in the 14th century. One such monument is the Mosque of Madrasa. His tomb has became the center of fine architecture and is still a place of pilgrimage for many Sufis today.[2] 

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